OFFER!!!... SVArTracker 1.22 Win32 - Is It Worth Messing With?... Full Examination>>>

Yup, It is>>>

This Tracker I had discussed before on some various forums years ago but now dive into it fully. Much in the way of advanced features...



Yeah, I know, looks complicated but that's the developer's shot shoving as much feature in as possible but some think any tracker looks complicated... Think 'Step Recording with Digital Readout'...

But this version is 15 years old now, it was only version released as free, there are no 'scene releases' nor 'cracked copies', the developer is gone for years now. Contains features not found in any other tracker.

Can be had at a few locations but some like softpedia are 404 & plugins4free is wrong version (demo)...

On wayback-

https://web.archive.org/web/20160818081932/http://www.svarsoft.com/download/svartracker_1_22_free_inst.exe

Or here-

https://modland.ziphoid.com/pub/software/trackers/Windows/SVAr Tracker/

After having given it a good work over strong points are VSTi-VST usage with advanced automation by drawing curves in several different modes. Pattern Editor with Tracks that are bound to VSTi-VST or Sampler with integrated program change for every note & note lanes can be increased for chord inputs with easy well engineered way of chord input that I wish all trackers did. VSTi-VST instancing is also a main focus as all you do is choose from 1 to 16 instances & that is it.



Many Synthedit plugs even work in it. All is not roses though & there are some areas where a crash can occur but stability appears well enough I don't see a problem... I use XP so it's pretty good but some seem to have a problem running newer OS & one trying WINE I guess only crashing...

Anyway I have the 'Full Monty' review over at the SunVox Outfit-

https://warmplace.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=6624

With many annotated screens & what-not

Comments

  • edited March 2024
    oh man I read through that thread, amazing tracker... especially the chord features, looks like v1.3 expanded it and added a nice circle of fifths:




    Antiwave is pretty cool too!
    Pretty impressive, not bad for $35

    I dont get trackers... and I couldnt get midi exporting anything.
  • Trackers are just step recorders with detailed digital readout, Somehow it freaks some people out... "I can't take that matrix code baloney man!" Yup, actually seen that...

    Yeah I wish I woulda been aware enough of it to buy it before Developer went away. Tried to see if I could find him somewhere but no luck...

    In the latter versions there was vertical curve drawing right there in the pattern editor...
  • hahaha it does look a bit matrix like.


    The svar dev used what looks to me like a real name on that renoise post, maybe find him using that?
    The paypal link used on the old site still is live, but it doesnt show the email, only svar.

    Maybe drop a comment on his video?
    The warmplace.ru is Russian, maybe someone there knows of him? or a cracker, that's probably the last resort.

    I'm sure there's ways of finding him, I doubt he would have gone to war.

  • Well, Piss... His last video was 3 years ago so that ain't gonna work... If you input 'sergey ivanov' into yandex.com you get all kinda peeps even software engineers... Anyway I'm not signed up with google so can't post comment anyways...

    I am a member at Renoise so I did message him there but he had not been on there in 2 years but I also left a thread in off-topic that I'm looking for him...

    Just about all that can be done I guess, I was gonna buy the 32bit version & the Anti-Wave VSTi as well, fingers crossed>>>
  • I would say he still uses that youtube channel, he uploads randomly it looks like.
    This is the latest video with comments on:

    fingers croosed
  • Yeah, I have seen the vids years ago... It might not happen so might be stuck with 1.22 but it's still got great potential, especially for SF2...

    Last night I sampled output of a number of VSTi to SFZ, then converted to SF2 individual Instruments, Then converted 32 of those to a 485 MB Bank, each individual SF2 in it has every semitone sampled for max quality so a bit less than 1,600 samples in all... Loaded fine in SVAr no instability at all, still used 1,088 GB of RAM but Renoise would've brought the machine down using that many samples even in it's own native XRNI format (been there before)...

    Plus you can have up to 16 instances per adapter sharing SAME SF2 no additional resources used... Using @2-4% CPU playing about...

    Also all these SF2 have internal loop points that Anti-Wave detect & use automatically...

    Combine THAT with being able to use ANY program change on ANY note in ANY track at ANY time & the fancy-fart hookups you get with machine view....

    Let it be known I would never use that many SF2 in a bank, maybe half & very custom for the tune... Like a Drum SF2, A Percussion SF2, A Couple Bass SF2, Maybe 3 different Synth Lead SF2, A Couple Rhodes SF2, Some VOX or Vocal SF2...

    All in one bank... so maybe 12-16 combined into one bank>>>

    Food for thought...







    And up to 9 note poly per track>>>
  • edited March 2024
    Woooo! that's very impressive, I didn't release anti-wave was a SF2 power house!
    Okay, I'll have to take another look at svartracker v1.2.... I can see why you want to buy both now! :plus_one:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20190820164933/http://www.svarsoft.com/antiwave.html



    Did you create the SFZ ad SF2 .wav sample files from svar also? That's amazing! Huge number of samples!

    What do you use to create the SFZ/SF2 banks?
    I'm starting to use polyphone, it seems pretty full featured to me.
    https://www.polyphone-soundfonts.com/documentation/en/manual/index
  • OK, Starting at the start... I use HighLife VSTi inside Cantabile Performer to sample a VSTi Plugin... After playing a bit to see if preset will work I then setup HighLife for that particular preset as far as how many seconds to 'hold' & what octave ranges... I don't have to worry about splits because I have it setup to sample every semitone... In that way a heavily modulated range of samples will all sound great no matter what... When I hit 'Freeze' it then does the work & when done I am then playing the samples 'in memory' still so if they sound fine then fine but sometimes using a different sampling time does better as HighLife puts loop points in the samples... If all OK then I export as SFZ with WAVs... Rinse-Repeat with other presets...

    Then I open SFZ up in Extreme Sample Converter & convert ALL SFZs to SF2s (Individual)... Then in Awave I open up all SF2s I want to form into a singular bank then 'Save Collection As' an SF2 BANK...

    Here's the HighLife the SoundBytes Guy improved on some-

    http://soundbytes.de/temp/HighLifeR3_beta.zip

    That's what I use, won't work on every plug & some crash it... You can use it inside DAW of choice but best something you can quickly get back running...

    BTW I tried that same 485 MB Bank in Delta SP 1.70 which is a soundfont 'centric' DAW but no go... Freeze/crash... however it does digest the individual SF2 instruments just fine...

    SVArTracker ONE... Delta SP ZERO!!!
  • edited March 2024
    Thanks for that! Cool :)
    Thanks for HighLife, tested it out and worked well.

    Awave... I thought that was familiar :lol: I downloaded it to test out playstation's VAB support.
    I tested out a few VAB and it seems to read them correctly so I guess it would write them correctly also.... if it goes on discount, it's a maybe for me.
    I'm happy to do it manually for both VAB and SF2.

    I went down a rabbithole checking out soundbytes.de site... there's also some tool to help create .sfz files but I think it's pretty convoluted but better then doing it by hand: http://soundbytes.de/index.php?sfz_toolbox-en

    The SFZ player required is here:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20071011005744/http://www.rgcaudio.com/sfz.htm
  • Everything I use simply creates the SFZ themselves so never had to think of it... Don't really like to spend alot of time on conversion if I don't have to, Same with UV mapping which always seemed like a waste of time...

    But you sure get going on things, nice digging...

    As to Awave grab the portable-

    https://archive.org/details/awavestudio10
  • Thanks I learn from the one and only talk or bell :blush:
    I dont mind creating format manually, I'm very used to it :rofl:
    The "portable" apps rarely work on my win10 some do, but most dont :i_dunno:
  • edited March 2024
    Yeah, I have an ASUS Transformer Netbook with windows 10 that won't run many portables if they want to dump temp stubs into a folder not directly in the same folder or other as well...

    No I did not 'buy' it a neighbor had a flood years ago & was throwing it away even though it had not got any water in it... I figured a new battery & a power supply worth buying as it is like new mostly...

    The only other way I get a 'newish' OS is buying an old machine off ebay some smartass has managed to cram a windows 10 or 11 onto it which uses most the RAM-CPU just idling not even hooking the internet which would be a wild ride but they yearn for it & these are machines that have 3-4 GB RAM so are a KING with XP... and that's where they end up, a reformat & an XP install then zippy as the day is long...

    Now choose-

  • Alright... Have gotten quite aways into SVAr this past year... Here's a WIP so far... That's not the actual name of what the song is gonna be it's just a play on words or 'TEMP' name...

    https://alonetone.com/TalkOrBell/tracks/thou-art-but-whole-(wip)


    But more importantly have discovered that SVAr has 'Multi-Temporal' Patterns which means that any pattern can be adjusted to run at an independent speed vs any or all else without pitch being effected... this is done simply by adjusting decimal value in properties...

    There are no other trackers that do this & for conventional Bidule does it & perhaps MuLab Ive heard but not actually seen... That's it... SVAr is certainly the only freeware sequencer of all that has multi-temporal patterns & SVAr is 20 years old... This version not quite that old yet...

    Here is example just using Klangformer, also playing with curves in the FX Processor but when you hear the pattern speeding up or slowing down I'm just copying the pattern & changing decimal value either slightly or overtly-

    https://alonetone.com/TalkOrBell/tracks/multi-temporal-(example)





    I have found a VST Oversampler Plugin that actually helps in allowing VSTs that don't work in SVAr to actually function correctly... In most cases it's VSTs that sound does not travel thru...

    Info-

    https://web.archive.org/web/20201022030043/https://sites.google.com/site/vstoversampler/home

    Download-

    https://web.archive.org/web/20110611194529/fileden.com/files/2006/8/31/195824/oversampler/oversampler_1_5_p1.zip


    There's no GUI you just do as thusly-






  • Nice tracks.

    thou-art-but-whole-(wip)
    I like your bass sounds

    Multi-Temporal, what a trip that is! OMG
  • Thanx... Some, after listening to a few of my tracks can guess what instrument I used to play in my days of youth, looks like you got it...

    Got alot of 'Play on Words' titles... think of the intrigue of>>>

    -Not Cults But Sects
    -No Chants In Hell
    -I Shift My Pans! (Don't Tell Anyone)
    -April May Be June
    -Lettuce Here
    -Lettuce Prey
    -We're An American Banned
    -Emma Nashuns
    -Dill Dough
    -You Have Toupee
    -Scare City
    -Bizarre Bazaar
    -BlackGas

    That's a few...

    SVAr has become my fav 'Not Closed In' tracker... There always appears to be something undiscovered in it...

    One can hook up a track to just an effect to draw envelopes for it-



    Which could be piped to other FX or that FX instanced...

    The track structure configurable as hell-







  • Though if you got soundfonts aplenty of decent quality (alotta the old ones are crappy) you are set in SVAr but say you wanna load AKAI, SFZ, KIT, REX as well as SF2 or a MIXTURE of them then Vember Audio Shortcircuit works well in SVAr... It's MIDI channel based so you can load up to 16 different sampler format instruments & then in tracklinkers direct to proper MIDI channel... Efficiency is good... Save-reload good...


    https://web.archive.org/web/20180722062514/vemberaudio.se/pd/shortcircuit/shortcircuit-1_1_2.exe







    VSTnotesXL Free-

    web.archive.org/web/20120129141739/http://proxl.nl/p/vstnotesxl.html

    Nice thing is the adapter does not need hooked to anything, Text saved when song saved... I use it to save song chord info & also shortcut list...




    Here's the list copy-paste-

    CTRL-Shift-Cursor - Select Internal Area Of Track
    '+' or '-' - Go To Next/Previous Pattern
    '/' or '*' - Change Default Octave Input
    4 - Play Active Block
    8 - Play Active Row
    Alt+Backspace - Undo Last Operation
    Shift+F6 - Cyclic Play Selection
    F8-Stop All Sounds
    `(Tilda) - Note Off
    =(Equal) - ReleasePlay Above Placed Note
    .(Period) - On Note Delete Note
    Backspace - Delete A Field & Shift Downwards
    Ctrl+Backspace - Delete A Block & Shift Downwards
    Alt+b - Mark Beginning Of Selection
    Alt+e - Mark End Of Selection
    Alt+F10 - On/Off Solo Of Current Track
    Alt+q or a - Transpose Selected Notes
    Alt+w or s - Slide Volume At Selected Area
    Alt+0, 1,2....9 - Change Input Step
    Alt+,(Comma) - Take All Attributes Of Current Inst To Default
    Alt+z - Select/Deselect Track At Current Pattern
    Alt+CursorDown - Copy Field Value To Next Note
    Alt+PgUp/PgDn - Insert/Delete Rows Between Two Of Them
    Ctrl+Alt+x - Fast Field Value Entry via Analogy (Entire Track)
    Alt+x - Fast Field Value Entry via Analogy (Inside Selection)
  • Testing Mu-Station Capsules work fine in SVAr as long as you use STEP MODE so everything stays in Sync... Capsules has a large amount of Params that can be automated so great candidate for use of the Effects Processor...

    Get Capsules here-

    https://web.archive.org/web/20181105044655/geocities.jp/mu_station/vstlabo/index.html







  • That is some playful UI, nice.
  • Just started looking at this little gold mine thread. :)
  • I spent a few hours looking at the WarmPlace.ru forum and printing it to PDFs.
    I also collected all the software (Except the 850MB Fotune Synths (For now, they ain't going anywhere).

    I'm gigging in an acoustic Gtr/Elec Bass duo. We're looking for a drummer...
    We have second Album material done and I'm putting finishes on 1st album.
    Thing is, band would be power trio but my 1st album is a solo effort with lots of keys.
    One day I want to do more synth based stuff again and get back into keys so I downloaded this whole SVAr 1.22 package for possible future.

    That said, some links are dead on WarmPlace.ru:

    ''Klangformer works just fine in SVAr...
    This is quite a synth really & never got beyond beta 2 but it's free on the other hand takes special instruction on how to install it''
    ****
    Arguru's Voyager a powerful upfront subtractive synth... Big GUI-
    Only comes with default bank only like 16 presets...
    Here is 4 more banks, many more than 16 presets-
    ****
    DuneCM works well in SVAr, have also extra patches HERE>>>>>
    ****
    Here's CK Modules as from the developer's site which was only up a short time years ago when he released them for free... These are 32 & 64bit but of course you use & register the 32bit ones for SVAr or BUZE-
    ****
    MiniHost Modular (I have that one)
    ****
    All the soundfonts

    Hey I listened to your MP3's. Why don't you put some artwork/video to that stuff?
    You could release some one-of-a-kind art... Just sayin'
  • edited November 13
    That's the best feedback/reporting I've got in along time... Thanks!

    SVAr has many advanced features some I don't understand like the function editor which would probably be more useful to a programmer mindset... I like the multi-temporal patterns & the effects processor & the instancing quite rocks...

    Kool you are so pro-active on the music scene... No, my uploaded stuff not that great plus nowadays nobody hardly notices with online music saturation & AI... I just upload snippets & WIPs mostly i do have 3 quite good tunes that will never see the internet as stealing is rampant & you'd never know... My take is 'What value is it to upload your music to a world of anyone you don't know & will never meet?' Versus music being stolen? Checking this morning I see I did get a comment on my 'Thou art but Whole' WIP of 'nice' HaHAW!... Also having hearing problems, about 15% hearing loss in left ear and double that in right ear making flipping headphones a constant hassle... Not to mention at 65 I don't feel as 'inspired' due to aches/pains...

    Last December I uploaded 'Crystal Quagmire' then posted on KVR... It's not a great tune but I thought because of the 303 squelchy riffing it would be liked... Just ONE comment with member saying "I can't believe this tune isn't getting any love!"...

    So I will pack up the first 4 items together you mentioned... What SF2 were you wanting? The individuals or the combined banks? My individual instrument SF2's are 'every semitone sampled' so large but high quality... Most have loop points but some do not like the Jaco Bass SF2 don't loop because it would make the bass sound like shit... Loopers like synth sounds usually are OK...

    Here's a valid reference... The only thing I might question is the 12 dollar earbuds, I think maybe 5 dollar earbuds-




    Back again... Here's all the VSTis requested... No Pass...

    https://workupload.com/start/erHL64tnwqX

    OR

    https://send.now/lp7wllmbuoct

    OR

    https://sendspace.com/file/zhycrwzb

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