Windows is falling apart

No, it's not a mistake, windows is slowly dying and rotting away. First of all. A key [INCLUDING USB] directly purchased from Microsoft costs a crazy 139 dollars. TO JUST USE A OS??? Look at ubuntu and almost all linux distros, they're free. Yet only 10% of the market uses them, I'd rather have some text on my screen hanging on forever saying that my windows copy is unactivated rather than burn away my money. They also added ads right into your start menu (atleast that's what I heard, I don't use windows 11.). They went as far to adding absolute garbage bloatware into your start menu, Like who ever used their computer to connect to their android phone??? Microsoft even forces you to use microsoft edge, if you manage to get another browser, it'll just keep edge in there, Like basically trying to get rid of microsoft edge off your computer is going to get as hard as setting your disk on fire. want your SSD to be still there tho? Erase your entire disk by burning ubuntu to a DVD, booting from that DVD, going to disks and erase your disk as NTFS. Yeah, yeah windows 95 was more expensive, but for the time windows 95 was actually worth buying it and also you couldn't just say oh yeah I've totally got a key, I swear I'll put it in later and you couldn't just go to the local computer garage sale and find a unopened windows 95 CD. If windows got this bad within one version, oh boy windows 12 will be the reverse of bloatless. They're probably going to add an app with the only sole purpose to scan a paper and convert it into .pdf if it gets this bloated.

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  • "They're probably going to add an app with the only sole purpose to scan a paper and convert it into .pdf if it gets this bloated."

    It's been around awhile. I use it almost daily to save web pages. and often when I get a piece of vintage software.

  • @02k-guy I'm very AMAZED just how much random apps microsoft made. Like they made a lot of stuff and also just how bloated these apps are sometimes, but I never genuinely saw this in my windows 10 copy, it's probably not pre-installed software.
  • There is good and bad to be said about the Borg that is Microsoft.

    Create a new shortcut on your desktop. Enter this for the file path:
    %windir%\system32\WFS.exe

    FWIW, this has been around since Vista.

  • And here is the actual PDF created when I right-clicked on WinWorld's page and chose "Print".

    Like all things we cannot change, the path to wisdom is to ask. Ask yourself, how can I make this work to my advantage.
  • I'd like to see valid proof that Microsoft is indeed "slowly dying" and "rotting away", like articles to back this claim. Also, Windows 10 still rides high in the market share (62% last time I checked). Even if people in their thousands jump ship to Linux, Windows is here to stay.
  • @Bry89 I Kinda meant not that windows will be no more soon, it's just that windows is likely to become very annoying and just purposeless to use windows to the point where even ubuntu and even MACOS could be more user-friendly and better to use.
  • Increasingly, doing anything these days seems to require a smart phone. There was a day when Microsoft would break developer's legs if they didn't make a version of whatever for Windows.

    Yes, the advertising is getting worse. You can tame it a bit if you spend lots of time digging around in settings, but don't expect it to get any better.

    Microsoft does whatever they can to force people to add ball-and-chains such as Microsoft Accounts, and OneDrive.

    It will be interesting to see how bad it really gets when Microsoft pulls the plug on Windows 10, especially since it is more dependent on online crap. There will be a LOT of computers just left unupgraded.
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    "Increasingly, doing anything these days seems to require a smart phone. "
    Yup, today it's the browser that represents the desktop most of the time, and most things that once were the domain of a clunking, whirring PC are done on a smartphone.

    "Yes, the advertising is getting worse...Microsoft does whatever they can to force people to add ball-and-chains such as Microsoft Accounts, and OneDrive."

    Yup. But the war is over. Microsoft, along with HP, Sun. etc know their future - if they are to survive - will be in behind the screens hardware and software like servers and data management.

    Weekly it seems, Windows 10 does something infuriating to me - most prominently, it's endless need to "update". Windows 11 and 12, gawd what bloviated, resource hogging C R A P.

    I dual boot W10 and W7 - time to desktop on W10 - A minute and 4 seconds. On W7 - 33 seconds. And everything on W7 "snaps". Opening an application on W10 feels like I'm on an ocean liner wallowing in high seas.

    My next dual-boot build will include Windows 7 Posready (because it requires no activation), and 32bit (because I require a useable 16bit ).W10 will revert back to the older, 1511 build, and I will lock it down.

    The next new machine I buy - well - I'm going to have to come to terms with some version of Linux - no matter how much it's bizarre, inconsistent naming and needlessly subdivided file system it uses, and the endless list of "open-source" libraries and helper files all this "free" software uses.

    My mantra remains the same: find a way to make the rock in your path part of the road and not the problem". But it does tax the old noggin...

  • @SomeGuy
    There will be a LOT of computers just left unupgraded.

    Yet like what happened with Windows 7, one can obtain the Extended Security Updates by paying for or making use of an ESU Bypass, where it gives people and organisations more support until 2028. On the other hand, LTSC versions are supported until 2032.
  • "one can obtain the Extended Security Updates"

    and that's another thing: will someone puleez explain to me the dire need to have these security updates? I've been running Windows 7 SP1 since- well since it shipped with my then new HP laptop. Never allowed updates. No security issues have ever presented.

    And am I special or lucky? I don't think so. I am daily dredging ftp sites, old torrents, eMule. Use all the search engines - including Yandex, and without hesitation, click on most but not all sites that my locked down version of Firefox says "cannot provide a secure connection" etc. "If you understand the risks, then click to proceed with caution" yada yada.

    My Microsoft Defender is forced into dormancy, and Malwarebytes is set to on demand only.

    No, I walk right in with both eyes wide open, check my user\Appdata and its many subdirs, and also: there are a whole bunch of sites I DO NOT WILL NOT go to. Like most gamer sites, torrent sites that focus on pr0n or newly released movies.

    If these "security updates" made a difference - I can understand it. But they are always issued AFTER the threats have affected who knows how man millions of users.

    In other words, a day late and a dollar short and meanwhile the bastards that write the malware have already moved on to a new technique or "vulnerability" (Expert jargon).

    So as I perceive it, these security updates help only with yesterday's problem.



  • Now Microsoft's forcing to make you pay to stay on windows 10 for just another year. Back then I could just install security updates for free and use the OS for a couple of more years.
  • @SimpleDiskette
    Now Microsoft's forcing to make you pay to stay on windows 10 for just another year. Back then I could just install security updates for free and use the OS for a couple of more years.

    Again, not valid proof that Windows is falling apart at the seams. If there's ever a story that Microsoft suddenly goes bankrupt or if there's a mass revolt for its business practices which in turn would affect user trust, then I would believe the statement more. Average Joe will not jump ship to macOS or Linux just yet, if not for another twenty years for so. Yes, I'm being realistic here...
  • @Bry89
    What I mean by windows falling apart is the users of microsoft windows having a worser experience, not windows microsoft, the company literally going bankrupt or something.

    Windows 10 is also more stable than Windows 11 according to a post on Quora, and nobody likes it when you're trying to install a driver and then, whoops, windows says you can't install it.

    So basically, windows is falling apart in terms of user experience from the view of the User, not from the company.
  • Of course the end user will face a much worse experience with using the OS by each update Microsoft will bring and whatnot, but Average Joe won't care. He would just want to surf the web and play games, and won't give two ticks of how the OS looks to him...
  • @Bry89
    What if the speakers randomly go bye-bye but work on other computers? That troubleshooter almost never saved me. It usually told me to try to update and get the newest drivers, which didn't work.

    And if windows were just to suddenly become absolute garbage that belongs in the dumpster, linux has web browsers but low game support, which gamers won't like, MacOS is simply for work and is not meant for gaming, so gamers are forced to stay on windows till Linux gets more game support or else they can use Wine to get windows apps in their linux/MacOS Environment. Proton is also a tool on steam which allows most windows-only games to be played on linux. So if windows just becomes trash that belongs in the dumpster, then linux is the next in the line since it has easy & simple compatibility layers.

    Linux already has a large variety of browsers to choose, for Ubuntu users, there's Vivaldi, Firefox, Google Chrome, Opera, Brave and Tor.

    Thank god windows 11 is now allowed to install on unsupported devices, if the windows 11 system requirements ramped up that much, windows 14/15 will pretty much require a supercomputer.

    Also, TPM 2.0 was released only in 2014! Any computer older possibly isn't officially supported by Microsoft to install windows 11.

    Windows 10 Requires no TPM (unless under specific reasons.) and you can even use it on a pentium 4 if you use 32-bit and 32-bit version requires only 1 GB of RAM, compared to windows 11, which needs 4 times that, if windows 11 did support 32-bit, the minimum would probably be 2 GB RAM for 32-bit computers, so on windows 15 we multiply that 5 times, which comes out as a 64 GB RAM system requirement for windows 15! For example, arch linux right now only needs 512 MB RAM and 800 MB of disk space for a minimal installation.

    Back then, windows XP required 233 MHZ only, which was reachable somewhere in late 1996. Now yes, that's a 5 year difference but think about it, TPM was a very small module in 2009 and you would pay 45$-90$ for it, just a waste of money right? Well, windows just suddenly introduced that and now windows 11 is basically power hungry.
    Computers from 1996 all the way to a i7-3770 and a 980 Ti being able to run XP. That's from 2012 & 2015 running windows XP, and then computers from 1997 also running windows XP! So using windows XP RTM version with no Service pack would last you till 2009, which is 12 years.
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