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Tiny 5650 boot error

alexzarachalexzarach
edited January 2007 in Software
I formatted my hard drive after an upgrade from windows 98 to windows ME went wrong. I had to format again using 'format c:' command in BartPE after I recieved an error. I realised what a mistake this was when I recieve this messageevery time my laptop boots up:
Remove disks or other media.
Press any key to restart

_

How can I install windows 98SE again? I do not have a boot disk and my desktop does not have a floppy drive. I do not want to buy a floppy drive as I would only use it for this. I only have a 98se cd I downloaded from winworld, though my laptop will not boot from it. My cd drive is the primary boot device in the bios, followed by my floppy drive and my hd. No OS is on it and BartPE uses the only partition as a temp file. BartPE will not accept my wireless card and will only work with the cd in all the time. In other words, HELP!!!

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  • JJ
    Boot to a CD ? :|

    Or, boot to a USB memory stick?


    J
  • alexzarachalexzarach
    How can I boot to a cd? Why can't I boot from my windows 98 cd?
  • JJ
    Does the CD have a boot sector that "points" to the 98SE installer? I'd be able to check, just getting 2.3KB/s means it isn't gonna be checkable for a while.


    J
  • alexzarachalexzarach
    I'll try to find out, which file lists it? The error message asks me to remove any disks I have connected. I press a key to restart but there is a beep and the message re-appears. Sorry to bore you to death with details but I'm desperate to get it working soon.
  • BODBOD
    The windows 98CDs were never bootable. I'd reccomend just installing 2000 or NT.
  • alexzarachalexzarach
    I had the same problem with installing Windows NT-how can I boot from a windows NT disk when the message tells me to remove all disks?:cry:
  • ThumpThump
    alexzarach wrote:
    No OS is on it and BartPE uses the only partition as a temp file.
    It sounds like you have no C:\ partition.
    Bart's PE creates it's own partition on the ram and doesn't use
    your partition for a temp file. You might have more luck with one
    of the UBCDs.
    And if you booted to Bart's PE after you formatted then you can
    boot to a CD, just not the one you want to.
    Good luck.

    Thump
  • JackTheStripperJackTheStripper
    BOD wrote:
    The windows 98CDs were never bootable. I'd reccomend just installing 2000 or NT.

    98SE was if not 98FE.
  • NTL1991NTL1991
    Yeah, my 98 FE CD-ROM is bootable... It starts up and runs setup automatically and does all the formatting right there...

    Nick
  • alexzarachalexzarach
      I am currently using BartPE.
      My windows 98 setup disk is the second edition.
      Drive B: is listed as RAMDISK and c: as Local Disk.
      c: is empty.
      How can I boot from the setup disk and avoid the black and white error message?
  • JackTheStripperJackTheStripper
    If the CD is bootable, set your CD Rom drive as a boot device in the BIOS.
  • alexzarachalexzarach
    Thump wrote:
    It sounds like you have no C:\ partition.
    Bart's PE creates it's own partition on the ram and doesn't use
    your partition for a temp file. You might have more luck with one
    of the UBCDs.
    And if you booted to Bart's PE after you formatted then you can
    boot to a CD, just not the one you want to.

    How do I create a partition outside BartPE? How do I format the hard drive for windows 98SE or NT4 outside BartPE?
  • ThumpThump
    alexzarach wrote:
    How can I boot to a cd? Why can't I boot from my windows 98 cd?
    Bart's PE and UBCD will boot by themselves but some of the older
    CDs won't anymore without pressing the correct key on boot. It's
    F12 on my Dell but yours could be delete or F1 or F2 or F8.
    You need to press them repeatedly and then will probable have
    to use the arrow keys to set it to boot to the CD.
    alexzarach wrote:
    How do I create a partition outside BartPE? How do I format the hard drive for windows 98SE or NT4 outside BartPE?
    I use a boot CD with Partition Magic on it. It would be the best
    if you could get it to boot to the 98 install disk and partition with
    that I guess, you'll have to get it to boot to something else.

    I tried out Partition Logic a while back and it's just about like
    Partition Magic and it's open source but it's made for a floppy.
    Windows 98 used to come with a boot floppy to get it started
    if you couldn't get the CD to boot. You really need a floppy
    for old stuff.

    Thump
  • ThumpThump
    alexzarach wrote:
    How can I boot to a cd? Why can't I boot from my windows 98 cd?
    Bart's PE and UBCD will boot by themselves but some of the older
    CDs won't anymore without pressing the correct key on boot. It's
    F12 on my Dell but yours could be delete or F1 or F2 or F8.
    You need to press them repeatedly and then will probable have
    to use the arrow keys to set it to boot to the CD.
    alexzarach wrote:
    How do I create a partition outside BartPE? How do I format the hard drive for windows 98SE or NT4 outside BartPE?
    I use a boot CD with Partition Magic on it. It would be the best
    if you could get it to boot to the 98 install disk and partition with
    that I guess, you'll have to get it to boot to something else.

    I tried out Partition Logic a while back and it's just about like
    Partition Magic and it's open source but it's made for a floppy.
    Windows 98 used to come with a boot floppy to get it started
    if you couldn't get the CD to boot. You really need a floppy
    for old stuff.

    Thump
  • alexzarachalexzarach
    Thanks. Is it possible for me to create a boot cd? Can I copy cmd to a cd and boot my laptop to it? If so, could I stay on cmd but eject the disk and replace it with the setup disk-running setup by entering the file path?
  • alexzarachalexzarach
    Can I boot from any disk when the error message asks me to remove all my disks and restart?
  • alexzarachalexzarach
    Can I boot from any disk when the error message asks me to remove all my disks and restart?
  • alexzarachalexzarach
    After many checks, I found out my hard drive format is RAW-windows 98 requires FAT16 or FAT32. I ran the convert command but it replied ACCESS DENIED.Can I convert?

    alexzarach
  • ThumpThump
    edited January 2007
    alexzarach wrote:
    Thanks. Is it possible for me to create a boot cd? Can I copy cmd to a cd and boot my laptop to it? If so, could I stay on cmd but eject the disk and replace it with the setup disk-running setup by entering the file path?
    Yes it's possible but unlikely to happen, I've never been successful
    doing it but get mine from other people who do just that.
    It is possible to load an app on the ram and switch disks but not
    with Bart's PE I don't think. I did it a few weeks ago with Ghost.
    alexzarach wrote:
    Can I boot from any disk when the error message asks me to remove all my disks and restart?
    You have to beat the error message. Does it come up before the
    first screen?

    PS: You could try this and see if you could get it to boot:
    Super Fdisk
  • JJ
    RAW just means that it's unrecognised, or nothing's there. It's not a file system as such, in most cases.


    J
  • alexzarachalexzarach
    The 'tiny' logo appears, then a screen telling me to press any key to continue or enter setup. This is normal. Then the error screen appears. I do press a key but it beeps and the message duplicates forming a list. Can you ask whoever supplies the disks how it is done?

    thanks

    alexzarach
  • ThumpThump
    alexzarach wrote:
    The 'tiny' logo appears, then a screen telling me to press any key to continue or enter setup. This is normal. Then the error screen appears. I do press a key but it beeps and the message duplicates forming a list. Can you ask whoever supplies the disks how it is done?

    thanks

    alexzarach
    That's enough, it should work then, some machines use the escape
    key.

    Bart's PE page trys to explain how to add apps to it and some
    places to get help but I was never able to do it.

    It's real complicated how the others do it. I believe they use
    "El Torito" to tell the computer that it's a floppy.
  • ThumpThump
    alexzarach wrote:
    I formatted my hard drive after an upgrade from windows 98 to windows ME went wrong. I had to format again using 'format c:' command in BartPE after I recieved an error. I realised what a mistake this was when I recieve this messageevery time my laptop boots up:
    Remove disks or other media.
    Press any key to restart

    _
    I was out on the back porch drinking and smoking and all the cares
    of the world went away and I happened to think.
    You're probably hung up on the Bart's PE. There's not many
    mistakes I haven't made more than once.
    When you exit Bart's PE or any of the many others you have to
    do it correctly. Don't turn off the power someway or don't
    just remove the CD. You need to use the Bart's to close it
    down. Don't chose "Reboot"
    Chose "Shut Down" and then try to get the disk out before it
    boots to it.
    You might have to format again but it just might work if you
    did it correctly once more, I don't know. If you're like me you
    Probably are willing to try anything until the problem is solved.
    guzzle.gif
    Thump
  • alexzarachalexzarach
    I tried re-formatting and shutting down properly-both made no difference. What I would really need is a windows 98 or 98SE boot CD if you could give me a link for it.:idea:

    Can anyone give me a website name? I read the forum rules and I hope this is not breaking any of them. If it is, please let me know!
  • ThumpThump
    Maybe you can get one here and it might work:
    Boot CDs
    A long shot, I don't know if it'd work or not, but you could take
    out the Barts PE and put in the 98 disk and try something like:
    D:\setup.exe or D:\ just to see if that's the right one and it it's
    D then it'll probably give a D:\ prompt, then type dir and see if it's
    there. When you find it just type setup.exe
    Good luck.

    Thump
  • alexzarachalexzarach
    Thanks-the bootdisk files for windows 98 (cd versions) were two empty zip files, one inside the other. As for BartPE, it crashes if you remove the cd. There is no way round that. Please give me more ideas if possible!

    thanks

    Alex Zarach
  • BODBOD
    Download a windows 98 bootdisk, and use the image as a bootsector when making a CD.

    Then boot the machine with the cd, make a partiton and format it, then make it bootable with "sys C:"

    Then restart it without the cd, put the windows 98 setup in, and copy the files to the hard drive.

    Then start setup.
  • ThumpThump
    alexzarach wrote:
    Thanks-the bootdisk files for windows 98 (cd versions) were two empty zip files, one inside the other. As for BartPE, it crashes if you remove the cd. There is no way round that. Please give me more ideas if possible!

    thanks

    Alex Zarach
    Sorry about the zips, I just googled for them and no the Bart PE
    wouldn't have worked anyway. You need at least to boot to dos
    or something. BOD's right if you can find a bootable CD
    somewhere.

    Thump
  • alexzarachalexzarach
    Don't worry-I have sent it to a computedr mechanic in my area to have a look at. I did this because the only bootable cd I found on the web turned out to be a faulty copy of DrDOS which copied itself to my laptop and launched whenever I inserted a bootable cd! I still can't get rid of it and have passed it on to a mechanic.
  • alexzarachalexzarach
    Don't worry-I have sent it to a computedr mechanic in my area to have a look at. I did this because the only bootable cd I found on the web turned out to be a faulty copy of DrDOS which copied itself to my laptop and launched whenever I inserted a bootable cd! I still can't get rid of it and have passed it on to a mechanic.
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