Using Windows 7 beyond 2023...

We all know that Microsoft officially ended support for Windows 7 two years ago but, the ESU Bypass had come to save the day which has given it another lease of life but now, only a year of that left and the OS shall be "dead" for good.

However, as absurd as this sounds, I'm beginning to think about using the OS after the end of the ESU Bypass because quite frankly, I'm very reluctant on upgrading or even have this laptop of ten years run on Linux instead (even when in recent years, I've lost interest in it and don't want to feel alienated by it either). This is probably like people wishing to cling on to XP after the end of the POSReady hack (and even before that ended, XP already felt obsolete).

Of course, support for this OS would definitely leave my system more vulnerable but would I be naive to say that Firefox (and even uBlock Origin) could still "protect" me? The same for the Windows Defender updates if they'll still be dished out, which I think would come to an end also.

Just want everyone's opinion of this, and tell me if it's ideal or not...


  • Given how much vendors abuse updates to change things around, an OS that never changes seems like a dream come true.

    How "vulnerable" it is totally depends on how you use the machine. I use lots of older OSes, but I don't go around installing crap from porn sites or malware filled free games, or browsing untrustworthy sites. (Also, sandboxing adobe products in VMs)

    The key is knowing exactly what is on the machine, and not changing things without careful testing first. It always important to keep backups, backups, backups. Also a good idea to occasionally scan backups offline using another machine. Make sure you have local copies of ALL software and updates you need. If anything goes to the internet for anything, eventually that resource will not be there any more. And lots of stupid programs like to do that these days.

    Also, don't forget a proper hardware internet firewall. I wouldn't even trust Windows one trillion with out one.

    The biggest issue you will have with running an "unsupported" OS these days are application vendors dropping support for that OS. If you need a new feature from an updated piece of software, you may not be able to get it. (Of course, on the flip side, so much software only runs on older OSes).

    That instantly becomes a headache with web browsers, as the drooling IDIOTS that make web sites these days insist on making sure sites break badly even if you are a single version behind.

    At any rate, it can be done, you just have to know what you are doing.
  • @SomeGuy
    That instantly becomes a headache with web browsers, as the drooling IDIOTS that make web sites these days insist on making sure sites break badly even if you are a single version behind.
    I still use Firefox 78 ESR and that's not happened to me... although I had one site where too much of its animated crap had bogged it down a bit.

    And yes, I actually wonder when Firefox will drop support for 7. They dropped XP three years after Microsoft pulled the plug on it. When that happens, there's always Pale Moon but that'll be dropped also 🤷‍♂️

    Also, my router has a built-in firewall so I should be fine on that aspect...
  • Well, on XP we are stuck with NewMoon 28 and Serpent 52, and increasingly lots of sites break in various ways.

    Heck, the other day I happened to visit a really badly designed site that checked the user agent and totally forbid access at all, as if it was 1998 "We only support Internet Explorer 4" all over again.

    Development support for a client OS like Windows 7 depends on if Microsoft's development tools still support that OS, and if any compatible server, POS, embedded, or other variants are still supported.
  • SomeGuy makes a lot of good points here, especially about knowing exactly what's on the machine and testing things out somewhere safe before trying them on your main machine. Plus, backups.

    As many here already know, I mained Windows 2000 until last March. That was 10 years out of support. Never had a virus in all that time. Now I use Windows 7 and linux.

    There is another browser that works on XP and Vista called 360 Chrome, but by default it's basically Chinese spyware. You have to get the russian repack which cleans that up, then edit the preferences file so it displays things in English. It's annoying but it's based on a modern Chromium, and extensions and even screen sharing/streaming on Discord works too.
  • Just when I thought everything would end for the OS in a few months, apparently the POSReady edition of it would get updates until October 2024. I would not be surprised that there's a bypass for that as well or a Windows XP-style registry hack. If so, more people than ever would not want to part with what's said to be the last-good OS from Microsoft...

    ...although I may jump ship to macOS as I had been browsing some renewed and used iMacs on Amazon lately.
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