[REQUEST] WIndows 3.x/NT era TCP/IP Applications
Not talking about a copy of Netscape but software such as:
Chameleon NFS/X by NetManage
TCP/Connect II by InterCon Systems
These were commercial products that were collectively a suite of applications used over TCP/IP networking for client/server roles, i.e. telnet and FTP etc.
Don't recall seeing this sort of software on WinWorld at least for now. Just interested to experiment provided its for Ethernet and not a modem.
On page 68 of this magazine, there was a review on some of these applications:
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=WzgEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA74&lpg=PA74&dq=source=bl&ots=2BQQRUI_d8&sig=6vROZw4oDh_hQyyHPuQ8CmvH3Vw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiHy6CW15vRAhXCFJQKHWadDYUQ6AEIKzAD#v=onepage&q=page%2068&f=false
Chameleon NFS/X by NetManage
TCP/Connect II by InterCon Systems
These were commercial products that were collectively a suite of applications used over TCP/IP networking for client/server roles, i.e. telnet and FTP etc.
Don't recall seeing this sort of software on WinWorld at least for now. Just interested to experiment provided its for Ethernet and not a modem.
On page 68 of this magazine, there was a review on some of these applications:
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=WzgEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA74&lpg=PA74&dq=source=bl&ots=2BQQRUI_d8&sig=6vROZw4oDh_hQyyHPuQ8CmvH3Vw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiHy6CW15vRAhXCFJQKHWadDYUQ6AEIKzAD#v=onepage&q=page%2068&f=false
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Anyway, nothing specific comes to mind.
Right when NT came out, there was very quickly a flurry of programs - mostly CLI if IRC, and were on most shareware ftp sites.
This CD-Rom over at archive.org is an example:
https://archive.org/details/SoftwareVault_198
It really wasn't until Microsoft put the 9X face on NT that it started to become more & more popular - when was that - 3.5 or 3.51 - I forget.
I do have Chameleon HostLink 8.0 - but that's from 1998 and won't do much for server-side anyway.
That is certainly the sort of stuff I would like to see more of here. Of course, most companies carted those softwares off to the dumpster, right in next to their Novell servers.
From the bunch of page snippets, the third snippet - click on Page 68 and it will take you to the actual page. There was a multiple page article with comparisons. I couldn't work out how to get it to directly go to that page specifically.
It was NT 4.0.
I understand and agree with what you're saying SomeGuy, though these products came about when those running Windows 3.x/Win for Workgroups didn't come with TCP/IP as standard.
NT was better equipped but someone may have used these on NT 3.1 or 3.5x machines in a business environment.
As the magazine suggested which is how it seemed to have panned out was that when Chicago (Windows 95) was to be shipped the following year with TCP/IP included as standard, these third-party vendors would need to do a lot of convincing to charge $400~ for their own shrink-wrapped package when Microsoft's would be sufficient. I guess some of the vendors continued with mostly terminal emulation after that point as this TCP/IP software was no longer as profitable.
ftp://powerfast.net/pub/windows/netmanage/
The file dates show 2008 or so, but a quick look inside the zips reveal that the stuff is all ffrom 1995-96.
Some in English, some in Spnaish. Could be all the apps are English, but the person that did the ftp might have made their notes in Spanish.
Whatever that site was that had "pappa, IN or Indiana": in it's name had a bucket of TCP/IP stacks and such. Old, old site.
I think its gone now - maybe archive.org has it?
Thanks for the FTP link. I downloaded the entire Netmanage directory and will go through and see what's what.
Be good if these were in original images, but can't always have it all.
Digging thru my Scruffy-ware, I also found ONNET PC/TCP, and NetManage Chameleon 7.0.
The difficulty is that Chameleon is for 95/NT 3.51 I think.
Using Google to just find better descriptions of Nemage products, I stumbled on this page:
http://tidbits.com/iskm/iskw2html/pt3/ch14/ch14d.html
As you scroll near the bottom they do present some visuals - and I can just barely remember dinking with that. When Netscape/Mosaic came out - the rest was history as they say.
ftp://papa.indstate.edu/winsock-l/
It's gone - maybe archive.org has it?
Anyway on that FTP you provided earlier, all the Spanish copies are under the SP_46 directory.
The only ones that installed OK was Ecco Professional 3.2 and OpSession. All the JETMAIL directories are just JetMail 5.0 for different Windows versions.
The tricky part with the software would be to find the right serial number. I could only find ones for Ecco which didn't need it to work, and Chameleon 4.x. JetMail and Unix Link 97 however appear to need both a 16-digit and 4-digit keys to install.
I did read up that the serial number must be unique over the network when installed on multiple PCs. If it detects there's multiple PCs with the same serial number then it will apparently bring up a licensing error and stop functioning.
Has a bunch of stuff - good luck on "onbeta2.zip" - its password protected.
I went to one of my old ftp haunts and found Chameleon 4.0, 4.01, 4.1.
PC-TCP, PC-NFS, NCSA Telnet, PCTCP ONNET 1.1, PCTCP 2.05, Tropic NFS Server 1.0, Tropic TCPIP 1.1b, Tsoft NFS 1.02, XFS NFS 1.8, XFS32 NFS 1.0, HCL-eXceed Server Release 3.1.1, eXceed-W & eXceed-Xpress Version 3.3.1, PC-Xware 1.01, Reflection X 4.00, Reflection X 4.11.
And a very old version of Brooklyn Bridge, Laplink, FastWire II.
Plus Lantastic 3, 4, 5, 6 and Netware Lite.
Netmanage Chameleon NFS 4.01 s/n: 34649640121147S3 Key D7D0
Chameleon NFS Morpher 4.01 s/n: 34649640121147S3 Key D7D0
Netmanage Chameleon NFS 4.1 s/n: 3405913104171253 Key A224
Netmanage Chameleon NFS 4.5 s/n: 34768840199594I3 Key 2FA2
Netmanage Chameleon NFS 7.0 s/n: 34108131059088S3 Key B71E
ftp://69.43.38.172/mirrors/papa.indstate.edu/winsock-l/