Windows Home Server

edited February 2010 in Software
It doesn't come out until late this year but I'm really
interested in finding out about it. I'm pretty sure I want it,
it has a new imaging program that can back up every PC on
your network and really compressed.
"If you have a copy of foo.dll on five machines, only one copy
will be saved". This only applys to XP and Vista though but
that's probably all I'm going to be using for a while now. This
can let you store up to 15 terrabytes on about 300 gigs of
hard drive space.

It monitors the health of all computers on the network so if
someone turns off the antivirus, you'll know about it.
Microsoft is going to give a domain for it through Windows
Live

Interesting name here, it's codenamed "Q" (formerly "Quatro".
Now I know Q uses Abyss so it's not him.
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"At the 2007 Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las
Vegas this week, Microsoft previewed its long-awaited
Windows Home Server (WHS) product, a Windows Server
2003 R2-based server for consumers that dispenses with
the complexities of most Windows Server versions and
provides the core storage, sharing, and remote access
functionality that digital media and home networking
enthusiasts require. It's an innovative and exciting product,
and I'm happy to finally be able to discuss it. Chances are,
if you read this site regularly, you're going to want
Windows Home Server."
Paul Thurrott's SuperSite WHS Review.

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  • Moved to Talk > OSs

    -Q
  • edited March 2007
    But really if you wanted a server/client system in your home, you'd poney out the dough for it. It's just Microsoft trying to extended their reach into peoples home's by making them think it's better to have that kind of system. Simplifying a server system as well for idiots, tends to make it more annoying as any Joe dumbass could set something up and complain abou it not working:p (but that's where M$ hope to make the $$$$ from I guess) my two cents.

    I do have a copy of the beta I got from the duff, but haven't tried it yet.
  • M$? I've never heard of such a company.

    I personally think it's a good idea.
  • Even back when I had the server, I doubt this would be much good. I have two machines on my network, and RDC\RR on both, which solves that problem.

    -Q
  • "M$? I've never heard of such a company."
    Please be a joke :P

    Don't get me wrong, from a parental point of view for home administration it sounds like a good idea, globalised filtering of internet serching, locking out of files to prevent little Billy from damaging the whole system, but I just don't see the point in making such an OS when many people at the moment don't have more than say 3 pc's in their home. I'm basing this on people having a family pc, the mothers laptop (and or fathers) and the older siblings because they wanted more freedom for playing games.

    I just personally beleive it is them wanting to make more money through scamming people into beleiving that having the ability to turn your Xbox360 (which I read some where will be supported by Win Quattro/Q Home Server but unkown if it was true) on or off from a room away is possibly the greatest ting since the theory of evolution. As I say though thats just my personal feeling towards it, any and every one is entitled to their opinions and I can see why you think it's a good idea, but I just don't feel the same way over it.
  • I know many, many people wiht more than 3 PCs in their home. (who aren't geeks)
  • The other problem is, it requires ANOTHER machine to be the server.

    That all aside, I only know one person with more then 3 PCs (Not me, as one of mine is a Macintosh) (Fish) in their place.

    What this WOULD be good for, notwithstanding the name, is a small-ish business/school.

    -Q
  • I have 10 pc's and 2 laptops and a spare motherboard with nothing except a cpu and some ram :P. I'm no geek I have no life thats all:p Only 3 are set up for normal use however, 1 laptop, my main desktop and my AMDK7 500MHz as my old gaming machine.
  • A K7? I remember my K6-II...

    -Q
  • Got one of those set up as well at 350MHz and I have 5 K6s'2 of varying speed sat in a bag with a Cyrix x86 166, a AMD K5 75Mhz and a few others :P
  • I wonder how they manage to shove 3TB onto 300GB.
  • K7 = athlon thunderbird through XP+ afaik.
  • Windows Home server seems to be the successor of the 2003 xp server. Does this hime server only meant for home use or prof. use too? Windows Professional Server anyone?
  • Longhorn server Will be 2003'S Successor.
  • This is like a "dumbed down" server from the point of view of administration: They appear to have a single, non-MMC application to manage the server and not much else installed on it. The beta also destroys all your existing partitions and (I think) creates a RAID setup and/or spans the disks.

    Frankly, MS's releasing this 2003-base OS after Vista is going to create some confusion. I would've suspected they'd wait untill they got LH server out, then base it on THIS. That would give them a seemingly unified codebase across the board. As it is I suspect they'll try and do this later.

    -Q
  • i was wondering that too. what happened to longhorn server. Personally i really dont see a point of this release. If you guys really want a server, i would suggest holding off until the longhorn server arrives. Until then just use server 2003.
  • You don't seem to understand the point of this. It's not for "us guys".

    It's for the normal home user who wants a way to keep track of what their kids are doing, and to store everytrhing in the same place.
  • Q wrote:
    This is like a "dumbed down" server from the point of view of administration: They appear to have a single, non-MMC application to manage the server and not much else installed on it. The beta also destroys all your existing partitions and (I think) creates a RAID setup and/or spans the disks.

    -Q
    I was already coveting this server as it seems ideal for a home
    server. It's supposed to be a whole new product that has some
    wonderful new ideas incorporated. It does erase whatever hard
    drive(s) you have hooked up when it's installed. I don't know if
    it has a different file system (non-NTFS).

    It doesn not use RAID, the MS spokesman said "RAID is an insect
    spray!". This uses some brand new method of backing up to a
    second hard drive.

    The complete backup of all systems online is done by storing
    only one of each file and that's compressed. If you have five
    machines with foo.dll on them then it just saves one foo.dll
    unless there is differences in each one.

    I don't know if it's "dumbed down" but the whole thing is set
    up to be much more simple.

    Sorry I posted again but I thought I'd pulled my old stunt of
    going to preview and being satified, backing out without
    posting. I didn't see it had been moved here. I was hoping to

    elicit more info on this new product 'cause I'm really interested.
    I've never had a network and this looks like just what I need.
    I don't mind dedicating another machine to it.

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  • It's out in beta and it appears that you can, similar to Vista and 2003, sign up for the beta:

    http://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsHomeServer

    -Q
  • I signed up hope they pick me.
  • Ofcourse there are also other ways of getting it, I'm trying in VPC.

    -Q
  • Wow, Q comes through again!
    The article said they weren't running a beta on it 'cause MS had
    hired a private firm to beta test it. I'm going to sign up and hope
    that it's referred to the testing company. They didn't say who
    so I had no idea where to volunteer.

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  • Ahh, Triumph of the ... "acquirers"!

    I'm getting it now via my 2000 VM!

    -Q
  • It doesn't use RAID, it probably just mounts all the drives as NTFS folders.
  • From the article:
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    Data is mirrored at the shared folder level, so that two copies of a folder are always stored on two different physical hard drives. It's quite different from RAID, Headrick says. "RAID is an insect spray," he cracked. "With RAID, you must understand the technology, add disks in sets, and its hard to remove drives."
    ***************************

    Did you get any idea how large it was Q? I found a torrent that
    didnt' work but it said it was 1.38 GB.

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  • That's about what the one I'm getting is. I'll have it in about 2 hours and will speedily test it in VPC.

    -Q
  • I anxiously await your review Q.
    An odd thing merty told me was that it started with a PE type
    interface and then when it was ready it installed and then it
    downloaded the files it needed from the internet. If that's so then
    there's no telling how large the installed OS will be until it's over.
    I didn't think it would be nearly as large as that. It does a lot
    more than just serve though. The download files from the
    internet thing might just be for the beta though.

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  • My copy (un tested so far) was 1113meg big. I think that was just the iso straight off. I suppose I should send it over to my main pc and test it in VPC.
  • Couldn't edit but here's what Wiki has on Quattro.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Home_Server
  • Thump wrote:
    From the article:
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    Data is mirrored at the shared folder level, so that two copies of a folder are always stored on two different physical hard drives.{{cut out}}

    All that is is software raid.
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