My biggest beef is that intel is too lazy to make a WDDM driver for my gma chipset. (even though it meets all the requirements: DX9, pixel shader 2.0, 128M shared ram).
IMO, pretty but annoying. If you're gonna get it, here's my recommendation for a computer:
Dual-Core AMD 3800+ or Intel 2.0 GHz
2 GB of RAM
256 MB GFX Card, nVIDIA 7000+
Not speaking from experience, but that's just my own recommendations as the way I judge all other MS products.
If you got the power to support it and the know-how to cope with it's annoyances, by all means go buy a copy of Ultimate (cause from what I've seen, Business looks liek crap)
IMO, pretty but annoying. If you're gonna get it, here's my recommendation for a computer:
Dual-Core AMD 3800+ or Intel 2.0 GHz
2 GB of RAM
256 MB GFX Card, nVIDIA 7000+
Not speaking from experience, but that's just my own recommendations as the way I judge all other MS products.
If you got the power to support it and the know-how to cope with it's annoyances, by all means go buy a copy of Ultimate (cause from what I've seen, Business looks liek crap)
My configuration is NO WHERE near that... And my system rating is 3.4...
Anyrate, Vista "with all the options" ran very usably on 512MB of RAM, however I also disabled all the options. I also suspect that if Windows detects a really low end machine during that billboard stage, it'll correspondingly automatically disable the really intensive stuff.
Anyrate, Vista "with all the options" ran very usably on 512MB of RAM, however I also disabled all the options. I also suspect that if Windows detects a really low end machine during that billboard stage, it'll correspondingly automatically disable the really intensive stuff.
-Q
I concur. I tried it on 768 ram with a celeron 1.5ghz. It booted up almost as quickly as XP, and system performance losses were negligible. I only had a few reasons to revert to XP. Visual studio 2005 was acting a bit buggy, even after a service pack, and Vista didn't really like my wireless card. :-/
IMO, pretty but annoying. If you're gonna get it, here's my recommendation for a computer:
Dual-Core AMD 3800+ or Intel 2.0 GHz
2 GB of RAM
256 MB GFX Card, nVIDIA 7000+
Not speaking from experience, but that's just my own recommendations as the way I judge all other MS products.
If you got the power to support it and the know-how to cope with it's annoyances, by all means go buy a copy of Ultimate (cause from what I've seen, Business looks liek crap)
I find vista a very nive OS. The only problem i have with it its it stupid driver support for older products. My 120$ capture card is sueless now. And my reccomendation for vista is:
Amd athlon 3700+
2GB Dual channel Ram (Vista is a ram killer)
Ati Radeon x800 128mb
Excatly BOD I agree with you 100% there. Driver support is on a per manufacturer basis, not Microsoft. Yes Microsoft make a default set of drivers but that is to allow for basic operation of a system. (hard drive's, motherboard chipset's gfx etcetera) To give the full functionality it is a given that the company will make drivers for the desired hardware. If the hardware is a few years old and they don't seem to be making any drivers all you need to do is email the company who made said software and see what there response is.
I ran Vista on a 1.7GHz Pentium M / 512MB DDR2 (533MHz) and it DID work, but after a few hours of my apps all running it felt slower and slower and slower.... 1GB is plenty.
Excatly BOD I agree with you 100% there. Driver support is on a per manufacturer basis, not Microsoft. Yes Microsoft make a default set of drivers but that is to allow for basic operation of a system. (hard drive's, motherboard chipset's gfx etcetera) To give the full functionality it is a given that the company will make drivers for the desired hardware. If the hardware is a few years old and they don't seem to be making any drivers all you need to do is email the company who made said software and see what there response is.
I didnt blame MS for it. I just said it sucks it doesent support my old hardware (or my old hardware doesent support vista). Its like saying oh bmw sucks cos ralliart bumpers dont fit on it or something along that lines.
lol I know your not blaming MS but it is totaly hardware vendor dependent to make it support it :P I mean probably none of the old ISA soundcards I own work with Vista at all. (I have some boards that meat the bare minimum to run) Though that is an idea worth checking out.....
Really MS states 800Mhz P3 minimum so I would presume anyboard meeting that speed. Wasnt SSE a basic feature on all P3's. I know my celeron 1.1 had SSE. I think my P3 700 has SSE as well. I might still try it anyway:P
Yea, Vista needs an 800MHz, but werent all the P3s and Athlons SSE enabled? I dont remember any of the 800MHz range P3 systems having ISA, though I could be wrong, I didnt really mess with many P3s..
Yea, Vista needs an 800MHz, but werent all the P3s and Athlons SSE enabled? I dont remember any of the 800MHz range P3 systems having ISA, though I could be wrong, I didnt really mess with many P3s..
lol i was 352 when you were 351 posts at the time of pasoting this. Anyway What is the need for such old ahrdware when we ahve the new? I dont think vista will run on anything taht supports ISA.
As long as the chipset has SSE and meets 800mhz and 512meg of ram it shouldn't care if there's ISA ports. I was just wondering if it has support for any ISA or EISA gear, like old soundcards.
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But thats not really microsofts fault :=(
-Q
Dual-Core AMD 3800+ or Intel 2.0 GHz
2 GB of RAM
256 MB GFX Card, nVIDIA 7000+
Not speaking from experience, but that's just my own recommendations as the way I judge all other MS products.
If you got the power to support it and the know-how to cope with it's annoyances, by all means go buy a copy of Ultimate (cause from what I've seen, Business looks liek crap)
-Q
-Q
My configuration is NO WHERE near that... And my system rating is 3.4...
Anyrate, Vista "with all the options" ran very usably on 512MB of RAM, however I also disabled all the options. I also suspect that if Windows detects a really low end machine during that billboard stage, it'll correspondingly automatically disable the really intensive stuff.
-Q
I concur. I tried it on 768 ram with a celeron 1.5ghz. It booted up almost as quickly as XP, and system performance losses were negligible. I only had a few reasons to revert to XP. Visual studio 2005 was acting a bit buggy, even after a service pack, and Vista didn't really like my wireless card. :-/
I find vista a very nive OS. The only problem i have with it its it stupid driver support for older products. My 120$ capture card is sueless now. And my reccomendation for vista is:
Amd athlon 3700+
2GB Dual channel Ram (Vista is a ram killer)
Ati Radeon x800 128mb
that list is based off experience.
I didnt blame MS for it. I just said it sucks it doesent support my old hardware (or my old hardware doesent support vista). Its like saying oh bmw sucks cos ralliart bumpers dont fit on it or something along that lines.
One of my P3s has an ISA slot.
Long live ISA.
-Q
Heh, my comp which is 7 years old doesn't even had ISA. It's definitly dead, but I do have a computer a year older with 1 ISA slot.
But my older pc, contains many interesting ISA things...... The SB16 ISA : ) and 2 free ISA slots : )
EDIT: YAY!!!! 350 posts ; )
-Q